Using the Focusrite Saffire Pro 40 with M-Audio 2626 as Slave
If you have an old micpreamp / soundcard which no longer has driver updates – or is Firewire 400, or which Mac updates have rendered obsolete, here’s an idea that worked for me.
An ADAT-slaved micpreamp will allow you to use your up-to-date 8 channel micpre’s Firewire connection to add a further 8 analogue inputs which work just as well as they ever did back when the old system was working.
But it’s a connectivity hassle, which I hope this blog can help clarify for you. I used my new Focusrite Saffire Pro 40 with its Firewire 800 (through a Thunderbolt converter) with up-to-date drivers, as the master. My redundant M-AUdio Profire 2626 is the slave. It works into a Yosemite Macbook Air, and Logic X.
ADAT connects the Saffire to the M-Audio with two ADAT ‘light’ cables.
You have to configure the M-Audio to match with Saffire as the host: at 44.1Hz, clock by ADAT.
I configured the Saffire MixControl mixer as clock by ADAT, with ADAT Inputs as Inputs 9 to 16.
NOTE: Despite hearing the M-Audio inputs from the headphone outputs on the Saffire, I couldn’t get them to show up on my DAW (Logic X). This caused me lots of headache, until I re-read the manual very closely. To discover that the Saffire hardware inputs are hard-wired directly to the DAW inputs.
As you’d expect, Analogue inputs 1-8 go to DAW inputs 1-8. But S/SPDIF inputs 1-2 go to DAW inputs 9-10, which means that:
ADAT inputs 1-8 go to DAW inputs 11-20
- therefore DAW inputs 11 to 20 must be selected for mic/instrument inputs 9 to 16.
Loop Back inputs go to DAW inputs 19-20
And it works beautifully! Both micpre’s sound great, and I’ve reclaimed my old M-Audio, which had been abandoned with much irritation when they stopped driver upgrades, and I bought a new Mac which couldn’t operate the M-Audio without crashing.
I’m also transferring back to a PC (having had enough of Mac upgrades), so this afternoon’s frustration was in a very good cause. I will be able to use my new 8+8 = 16 interface with Cubase Pro 9, which I’m looking forward to getting back into.
Subscribe, and I’ll let you know how it all goes. I may also make a short video to show you the screen options.
Postscript:
I’ve now managed to hook this up with my new music PC into Cubase 9. It works just fine – 18 lovely mic preamps with lots of options for monitoring sends etc.
There’s usual hassle with the soundcard software. But that’s nothing that several hours of frustration and re-reading the user manual can’t solve!!
Hugh,
Man are you a savior.
Just picked up a Focusrite Pro 40 after rendering my Profire2626 obsolete, by upgrading to a maxed out 2015 27″ iMac with current os (High Sierra) & (Logic Pro X 10.4)
Came across you article after doing a search for the possibility of doing this exact thing instead of boxing up the profire to never be seen again.
I definitely want to try and see if I can get this working. An extra 8 channels would be awesome for live performances as well as drum tracking.
It would be a great help if you could send some screen grabs of the channel settings/options. If thats possible.
Also if you could explain how you ran the optical cables between interfaces. I/O – A/B…
Thanks again for your help. This is awesome news.
-Tyler
Hi Tyler,
I laid out all the details in the blog, with some care as I didn’t even know if it would work, and it was totally trial and error. Just do exactly what I say in the blog. I also recommend reading both manuals very carefully.
Good luck,
Hugh